"Do I have to respect him or his followers?"
Here is where your fallacy lies, anon.
Nobody is forcing you to invite Loki into your life. Nobody is telling you that you have to actively honor him or build a relationship with him. But if you are going to actively exclude people or disrespect them because of the deity they choose to honor, you are a narrow-minded bag of shit.
You can have opinions about a god and make personal choices about your own practice, but the whole “my hall my rules” mentality shouldn’t extend to how you view and treat other people.
Think of it like this: You can have sex with whoever you want (with consent and proper legality) whenever you want and nobody has the right to judge you. You can choose to abstain from sex whenever you want, and nobody has the right to judge you. That is because these are personal choices about your own personal body and relationships, and you have the right to do whatever you choose with it.
But the second you start shaming other people for what they do in their personal lives or refuse to respect them as people because of it, you’ve got a frelling problem. If you stay away from someone because of personal choices that have no bearing on you whatsoever, you are an asshole.
(And, for the record, I have never heard a convincing story about Loki -messing- with someone simply because they came in contact with one of his followers)
I can respect your own personal choice to avoid Loki in your practice, but I will not pretend you have the right to shame, disrespect, or fight to exclude those who worship him. I respect your right to make choices about yourself. If you refuse to respect mine, you are the one with the problem.
Very well said. How I see it, Loki is contrary to everything I want and need and opposed to how I understand the world, and so I’ll not have much to do him, but I’m still obliged to respect him as an important figure in a pantheon I venerate.
And as for his followers, I of course respect and accept them, just as I would any other people, regardless of religion. Lokeans approach heathenism differently that I do, but we’re all in this together in the end.
Actually, the very fact that Loki is contrary to how I think is precisely why he’s important. It’s Skadi who got my attention (I suppose by this point I should start saying she’s my patron goddess or that I’m her devotee, but this is still new to me), and Loki was involved in that attention-getting. I’m not even sure how to explain it, but the tension between Skadi and Loki is how Skadi showed up and went “I’m here, pay attention to me”.
I’m a Lokean, I’ve been for quite some time now. He is The Trickster, and you will have to be careful around him, but he is not the equivalent of the Christian Devil as a lot of people want to belive he is. To me, he is the chaos that completes the balance between good and bad. You can’t have light without darkness or summer without winter. It just doesn’t work that way.
You can blót to him, give him offerings, devote your time to him and nothing bad happens. It’s when you ask him for help or a favour that he becomes The Trickster. He will do exactly what you ask him and give you everything you want, but you may not want to pay the price.
I asked him for help a year ago, and I’m still paying for it. Do I regret it? No. I got what I asked for and I met some wonderful people.
My point is, dont treat Loki as if he doesn’t belong in the pantheon, because he does. He is the blood brother of Odin for a reason.
stop romanticizing unhealthy relationships.
stop thinking you can change someone. you can’t. they need to change for themselves.
stop romanticizing the idea of you two being together some day. if it isn’t happening now, let it go.
no more pouring your heart out for someone who gives you little to no reciprocation.
find someone who values your long letters and passionate attempts. this person will reciprocate, with twice as much fire.
Being an atheist is okay.
Being an atheist and shaming religions and spirituality as silly and not real is not okay.
Being a Christian is okay.
Being homophobic, misogynistic, racist, or otherwise hateful person in the name of Christianity is not okay.
Being a reindeer is okay.
Bullying and excluding another reindeer because a he has a shiny red nose is not okay.
(INDIGNANT HUFFING) NOT ALL M……ale lions
the more i think about it, the weirder this comment seems. how does this man know that being a male lion is more stressful than being a female lion. has he lived as both a female and male lion before. is this man an Animorph
male lions rights activist
as a big cat fanatic and a zoo veteran:
male lions are lazy fucks. they CHOOSE to fight cos they’re BORED.
This is Zero, the most photographed lion in National Geographic history (so I’ve been told). While his huge frame and two-toned mane make him an intimidating sight, he is essentially the biggest baby I observed while in South Africa.
You would hear these deep roaring moans echo across the reserve… and it was Zero, whining for the girls (Maggie and Lisa) to bring him food. The lazy bum would just roll around in the river bed moaning and groaning until the females would show up with a kill.
Sure, he could fight if there happened to be a rival male in the area. And his ‘mock charge’ display was intimidating enough to keep just about everyone* out of his way… but 99% of the time this guy was all about moaning (for food), mating, and mane-flips.
* - The only animal not run off by Zero’s display was a honey badger, who - true to form - did not care.
That is one ridiculously photogenic lion.